{"quotes":[{"text":"It's laughable, looking back, to see the processes I went through, pretending to make a reasoned decision. No choice is ever made on the basis of logic; the logic is fabricated around the impulse, the initial desire which is innate and incontrovertible. All the time, I knew where I was going, the elements of my fulfillment or ruin were always present; I only had to work my way into that seam of desire and find the hidden vein of dross or gold. It's not a question of predestination, it's just that free will and destiny are illusions, false opposites, consolations. In the end, they are one and the same: a single process. You choose what you choose and it could not have been otherwise: the choice is destiny. It was there all along, but any alternative you might have considered is an absurd diversion, because it is in your nature to make one choice rather than another. That is identity. To speak of freedom or destiny is absurd because it suggests there is something outside yourself, directing your life, where really it is of the essence: identity, the craftwork of the soul.","author":"John Burnside","tags":["choice","destiny","free-will","predestination"],"id":15724,"author_id":"John+Burnside"},{"text":"If free will means to do what you want, then it does not exist. Many of its staunchest proponents have met the wheel of fate without opposing it.","author":"Bangambiki Habyarimana","tags":["fate","free-will","predestination"],"id":23753,"author_id":"Bangambiki+Habyarimana"},{"text":"There is history the way Tolstoy imagined it, as a great, slow-moving weather system in which even tsars and generals are just leaves before the storm. And there is history the way Hollywood imagines it, as a single story line in which the right move by the tsar or the wrong move by the general changes everything. Most of us, deep down, are probably Hollywood people. We like to invent “what if” scenarios--what if x had never happened, what if y had happened instead?--because we like to believe that individual decisions make a difference: that, if not for x, or if only there had been y, history might have plunged forever down a completely different path. Since we are agents, we have an interest in the efficacy of agency.","author":"Louis Menand","tags":["agents","decisions","fate","history","individuals","predestination","tolstoy"],"id":30734,"author_id":"Louis+Menand"},{"text":"No attempt should be made to 'reconcile' Yahweh's hardening of Pharaoh's heart (plagues 6,8,9,10) with statements in the other plagues that Pharaoh hardened his own heart.The tension cannot be resolved in a facile manner by suggesting, for example, that Pharaoh has already demonstrated his recalcitrance, so Yahweh merely helps the process along, or that he is doing what Pharaoh would have done on his own anyway. Rather, 9:12 is a striking reminder of what God has been trying to teach Moses and Israel since the beginning of the Exodus episode: He is in complete control. However Pharaoh might have reacted is given the chance is not brought into the discussion. He is not even given that chance. Yahweh hardens his heart. It is best to allow the tension of the text to remain.","author":"Peter Enns","tags":["bible-study","free-will","god","pharaoh","predestination","sovereignty","yahweh"],"id":36570,"author_id":"Peter+Enns"},{"text":"The whole struggle was over, and yet there seemed to have been no moment of victory. You might say, if you liked, that the power of choice had been simply set aside and an inflexible destiny substituted for it. On the other hand, you might say he had delivered from the rhetoric of his passions and had emerged in unassailable freedom. Ransom could not for the life of him, see any difference between these two statements. Predestination and freedom were apparently identical. He could no longer see any meaning in the many arguments he had heart on the subject.","author":"C.S. Lewis","tags":["free-will","predestination"],"id":38866,"author_id":"C.S.+Lewis"},{"text":"God wanted us to do something, and we went the bad way. Then he said 'No!, I am not going to lose what I want done!, So I'm gonna save this people and restore their dreams back to them'!","author":"Israelmore Ayivor","tags":["back-to-life","bad","bad-way","christ","dentiny","destined","dont-give-up","don-t-quit","dreams","food-for-thought","garden-of-eden","god","israelmore-ayivor","jesus","jesus-christ","life","live-again","living","never-give-up","predestination","predestined","restoration","restore","revival","revive","revive-us-again","salvation","save","sin","something"],"id":42359,"author_id":"Israelmore+Ayivor"},{"text":"The first verse that comes to mind that refutes all of Calvin’s points is “Whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Whoever means whoever. Not just some, not just the elect; that means that anyone who wants to come to God and repent may do so. There is not a certain group that is predestined for hell and they can't do anything about it. How then would God be just? Knowing God’s nature, and that he IS love, I simply cannot believe that and believe it to be a completely false teaching.","author":"Lisa Bedrick","tags":["after-life","false-teachings","fate","god","heaven","hell","john-calvin","lies","life","love","predestination","predetermined"],"id":51359,"author_id":"Lisa+Bedrick"},{"text":"I may not be free, but I’m not about to surrender the illusion of choice.","author":"Johnny Rich","tags":["choice","choices","destiny","fate","free","free-will","freedom","predestination","predestiny","predetermination","predetermined","surrender"],"id":63710,"author_id":"Johnny+Rich"},{"text":"Divine determination and decree is this: that God has foreordained all people without exception unto eternal life, for his love is unconditional.","author":"Bangambiki Habyarimana","tags":["god-s-unconditional-love","messiah","messiah","messiahs","predestination","salvation","salvation-by-grace","salvation-by-works","salvation-in-death","salvation-of-the-world","salvation","save","save-me","saved","saved-by-christ","saved-by-grace","saved-from-sin","saved-from-sins","saved-souls","savior","savior","unconditional","unconditional-acceptance"],"id":68066,"author_id":"Bangambiki+Habyarimana"},{"text":"This doctrine of total inability which declares that men are dead in sin does not mean that all men are equally bad, nor that any man is as bad as he could be, nor that anyone is entirely destitute of virtue, nor that human nature is equal in itself, nor that man’s spirit in inactive, and much less does it mean that the body is dead. What is does mean is that since the fall, man rests under the curse of sin, that he is actuated by wrong principles, and that he is wholly unable to love God, or to do anything meriting salvation. His corruption is extensive, but not necessarily intensive. It is in this sense that man, since the fall, is utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, wholly inclined to all evil. He possesses a fixed bias of the will against God, and instinctively and willingly and turns to evil. He is an alien by birth, and a sinner by choice. The inability under which he labors is not an inability to exercise volition, but an inability to be willing to exercise holy volitions. And it is this phase of it which led Luther to declare that ‘free will’ is an empty term, whose reality is lost; and a lost liberty, according to my grammar, is no liberty at all.","author":"Loraine Boettner","tags":["doctrine","free-will","loraine-boettner","predestination","reformed","religion"],"id":75378,"author_id":"Loraine+Boettner"}],"pagination":{"page":1,"page_size":10,"total":42,"pages":5,"next":"?page=2\u0026page_size=10"}}